Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

[Sokol, Brian]

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com


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[FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC]

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You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com <http://www.Scholastic.com>

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[Rick Cook]

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control the
R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow write
access to the field from a Submit window.

Rick

On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil> wrote:
>
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
> error Filter with the syntax:
>
> TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>
>
> I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.
>
> Gordon M. Frank
> DISA\Version FNS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?
>
> **
>
> I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
> prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
> them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
> simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
> Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
> know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
> Is this possible?
>
> Brian Sokol
> Manager, Desktop Services
> Scholastic Inc.
> 557 Broadway
> NY, NY 10012
> [phone]
> http://www.Scholastic.com <http://www.Scholastic.com>
>
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[Sokol, Brian]

I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.

________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**
Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.

Rick

On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to
use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
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Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I
want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would
like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would
be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of
field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read
only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Heider, Stephen]

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Sokol, Brian]

Hi Stephen,

I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:

PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID

This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.

Brian

________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Heider, Stephen]

Hi Brian,



I just tested that here (ARS 6.3) and the changes are not saved back to
the attachment field. The WUT did not even detect that a field was
changed on the record. I also tried changing another field to get the
WUT to detect a field change, and then saved the record. The attachment
file did not update.



Any anyone else experienced this?



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Sokol, Brian]

I am on ars 7.1 so I don't know if something changed with that version.

________________________________

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:26 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**

Hi Brian,



I just tested that here (ARS 6.3) and the changes are not saved back to
the attachment field. The WUT did not even detect that a field was
changed on the record. I also tried changing another field to get the
WUT to detect a field change, and then saved the record. The attachment
file did not update.



Any anyone else experienced this?



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Hugo Visser]

This is a tricky one, the attachment isn't actually updated in the DB.
However, the WUT will create a temp file somewhere to show and open the
attachment. If you change the attachment the temp file is changed. Now when
you open the same temp file is opened again, it is not overwritten. It
appears that the attachment is changed. But when you save the attachment,
you'll see that the attachment is in fact not changed at all.

If you did want to update the attachment, you'd save it, modify it and
attach it to the field again.

Hugo

On Dec 13, 2007 8:25 PM, Heider, Stephen <***@pbsj.com> wrote:

> **
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
>
> I just tested that here (ARS 6.3) and the changes are not saved back to
> the attachment field. The WUT did not even detect that a field was changed
> on the record. I also tried changing another field to get the WUT to detect
> a field change, and then saved the record. The attachment file did not
> update.
>
>
>
> Any anyone else experienced this?
>
>
>
> Stephen
>
> Remedy Skilled Professional
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> ***@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Sokol, Brian
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
>
> *To:* ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
>
>
> I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
> this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
> with a Run Process action. It performs the following:
>
>
>
> PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID
>
>
>
> This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the changes
> are written back to the attachment file.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> ***@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Heider, Stephen
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
> *To:* ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> **
>
> Brian,
>
>
>
> How about this approach:
>
>
>
> When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved – when the attachment
> field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the name
> (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only character
> field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to this character
> field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.
>
>
>
> This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not allow
> them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the attachment from the
> record.
>
>
>
> In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger your
> workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a condition
> that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is part of a
> certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide the ability for
> certain users to have access to remove or update an attachment.
>
>
>
> Stephen
>
> Remedy Skilled Professional
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> ***@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Sokol, Brian
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
> *To:* ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>
>
> I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she attaches
> it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am not sure
> that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> ***@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Rick Cook
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
> *To:* ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> **
>
> Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
> attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control the
> R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow write
> access to the field from a Submit window.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
> On 12/13/07, *FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC* <***@disa.mil>
> wrote:
>
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
> error Filter with the syntax:
>
> TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>
>
> I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.
>
> Gordon M. Frank
> DISA\Version FNS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?
>
> **
>
> I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
> prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
> them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
> simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
> Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
> know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
> Is this possible?
>
> Brian Sokol
> Manager, Desktop Services
> Scholastic Inc.
> 557 Broadway
> NY, NY 10012
> [phone]
> http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com>
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[Sokol, Brian]

I tried that and for some reason the error message fires if I change any
field and try to save the request even if I do not touch the attachment
field.

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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:00 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com <http://www.Scholastic.com>

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[Heider, Stephen]

The error you're describing sounds like a separate issue. You should be
able to hide/unhide, set field, change field without getting an error
message.

In the example below the character field would be display-only with
Disable Change Flag box checked.

If you have a few minutes, try creating a new form with which to test.
Add the attachment field, the character field and the button. Then
create one active-link that either makes the attachment 'read-only' or
updatable. If you can get this to work on your test form then you
should be able to make it work on your current form.

HTH

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional

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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:44 PM
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Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I tried that and for some reason the error message fires if I change any
field and try to save the request even if I do not touch the attachment
field.

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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:00 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com <http://www.Scholastic.com>

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[Timothy Powell]

Change the Run If to: '<Attachment field>' != 'DB.<Attachment field>'

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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:44 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I tried that and for some reason the error message fires if I change any
field and try to save the request even if I do not touch the attachment
field.

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:00 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com <http://www.Scholastic.com>

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[Timothy Powell]

Actually, that's not right either. At a minimum it would have to be
'<Attachment field>' != 'DB.<Attachment field>' AND 'DB.<Attachment field>'
!= $NULL$

But that will only check if somebody is deleting the existing attachment. It
won't detect a change to the same attachment or even the replacement of the
original attachment with a different attachment.

Tim

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:35 PM
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Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Change the Run If to: '<Attachment field>' != 'DB.<Attachment field>'

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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:44 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I tried that and for some reason the error message fires if I change any
field and try to save the request even if I do not touch the attachment
field.

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:00 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com <http://www.Scholastic.com>

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[Dwayne Martin]

Does anyone know WHY attachment fields can't be made read-only?

Is it just an oversight, or is there a good reason?

Dwayne Martin
James Madison University

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:44:13 -0500
>From: "Sokol, Brian" <***@SCHOLASTIC.COM>
>Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
>
>I tried that and for some reason the error message fires if I change any
>field and try to save the request even if I do not touch the attachment
>field.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:00 PM
>To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>Caveats: NONE
>
>You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
>error Filter with the syntax:
>
>TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>
>
>I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.
>
>Gordon M. Frank
>DISA\Version FNS
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
>To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?
>
>**
>
>I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
>prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
>them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
>simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
>Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
>know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
>Is this possible?
>
>Brian Sokol
>Manager, Desktop Services
>Scholastic Inc.
>557 Broadway
>NY, NY 10012
>[phone]
>http://www.Scholastic.com <http://www.Scholastic.com>
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[Sokol, Brian]

I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


Hi Stephen,

I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:

PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID

This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.

Brian

________________________________

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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

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Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Heider, Stephen]

Brian,



Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?



Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the
regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then
run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be
impossible for anything to get written .



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Heider, Stephen]

Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only
form for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn't seem to be an
option to create a display-only attachment field.



However... you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Brian,



Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?



Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the
regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then
run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be
impossible for anything to get written .



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Sokol, Brian]

Ok tried this -when I click on the button I do a Set Field from the
protected Attachment field to it's copy. I then do a
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command on the 2nd attachment field. When
i try this I get the following error;

An invalid argument was encountered.

It looks like the set field fails to copy the attachment .

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:58 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**

Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only
form for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn't seem to be an
option to create a display-only attachment field.



However... you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Brian,



Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?



Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the
regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then
run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be
impossible for anything to get written .



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Jason Miller]

I am pretty sure I have created DO attachment fields on regular forms in
6.3. I just verified on 7.0.01 that it can be done. You can't create a DO
attachment pool (it doesn't save any data so that makes sense) but you can
created the attachment fields as DO within the attachment pool.



Jason



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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:58 AM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



**

Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only form
for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn't seem to be an option to
create a display-only attachment field.



However. you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Brian,



Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?



Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the regular
attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then run the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be impossible
for anything to get written .



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that will
work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment directly.

_____

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the changes
are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment field
is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the name (and
optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only character field
that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to this character field
that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not allow
them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the attachment from the
record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger your
workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a condition
that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is part of a
certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide the ability for
certain users to have access to remove or update an attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she attaches
it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am not sure
that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



_____

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control the
R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow write
access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil> wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Sokol, Brian]

When you say a "display only attachment field" do you mean a hidden
one?I don't believe you can make an attachment field display only.

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**

Brian,



Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?



Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the
regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then
run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be
impossible for anything to get written .



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com
<http://www.Scholastic.com> >

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[Sokol, Brian]

Looks like you can not use a Set Field to copy from one attachment field
to the other. Any other ideas?

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:16 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


Ok tried this -when I click on the button I do a Set Field from the
protected Attachment field to it's copy. I then do a
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command on the 2nd attachment field. When
i try this I get the following error;

An invalid argument was encountered.

It looks like the set field fails to copy the attachment .

________________________________

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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:58 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**

Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only
form for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn't seem to be an
option to create a display-only attachment field.



However... you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Brian,



Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?



Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the
regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then
run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be
impossible for anything to get written .



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
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[Heider, Stephen]

I do that here but with a Set Fields from another form.



Try this: perform the Set Fields from the same form by '1' = $1$ This
should cause Remedy to retrieve the file from the server.





Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:35 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Looks like you can not use a Set Field to copy from one attachment field
to the other. Any other ideas?



________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:16 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Ok tried this -when I click on the button I do a Set Field from the
protected Attachment field to it's copy. I then do a
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command on the 2nd attachment field. When
i try this I get the following error;



An invalid argument was encountered.



It looks like the set field fails to copy the attachment .



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:58 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only
form for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn't seem to be an
option to create a display-only attachment field.



However... you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Brian,



Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?



Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the
regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then
run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be
impossible for anything to get written .



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



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[Thad K Esser]

I have a display only attachment field that is being set with a set
fields. When I was first setting it up, one issue I had was that if I put
the attachment field on an Admin Only tab (or a tab to which the user
doesn't have permissions), the set fields wouldn't happen. This was the
case even if the attachment pool/field itself had the proper permissions.
In my case the attachment field was hidden anyway, so I just moved it off
the page holder and it worked fine.

Just something to keep in mind.

Thad Esser
Remedy Developer
"Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."-- Richard
Bach



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Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)






**
I do that here but with a Set Fields from another form.

Try this: perform the Set Fields from the same form by ?1? = $1$ This
should cause Remedy to retrieve the file from the server.


Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:35 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Looks like you can not use a Set Field to copy from one attachment field
to the other. Any other ideas?


From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:16 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
Ok tried this -when I click on the button I do a Set Field from the
protected Attachment field to it's copy. I then do a
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command on the 2nd attachment field. When i
try this I get the following error;

An invalid argument was encountered.

It looks like the set field fails to copy the attachment .


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:58 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
**
Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only form
for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn?t seem to be an option
to create a display-only attachment field.

However? you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Brian,

Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?

Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the regular
attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then run the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be impossible
for anything to get written .

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
Hi Stephen,

I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:

PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID

This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the changes
are written back to the attachment file.

Brian


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
**
Brian,

How about this approach:

When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved ? when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to this
character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.

This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not allow
them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the attachment from
the record.

In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger your
workflow to make it ?read-only?. You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment ?read-only? if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. ?App-Administrator?. This will provide the
ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she attaches
it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am not sure
that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.

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[Sokol, Brian]

If it is display only then how do you save the file in the attachment
field?

________________________________

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:54 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**
I have a display only attachment field that is being set with a set
fields. When I was first setting it up, one issue I had was that if I
put the attachment field on an Admin Only tab (or a tab to which the
user doesn't have permissions), the set fields wouldn't happen. This
was the case even if the attachment pool/field itself had the proper
permissions. In my case the attachment field was hidden anyway, so I
just moved it off the page holder and it worked fine.

Just something to keep in mind.

Thad Esser
Remedy Developer
"Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."-- Richard
Bach



"Heider, Stephen" <***@PBSJ.COM>
Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)"
<***@ARSLIST.ORG>

12/13/2007 12:40 PM
Please respond to
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To
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cc
Subject
Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)






**
I do that here but with a Set Fields from another form.

Try this: perform the Set Fields from the same form by '1' = $1$ This
should cause Remedy to retrieve the file from the server.


Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


________________________________


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:35 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Looks like you can not use a Set Field to copy from one attachment field
to the other. Any other ideas?


________________________________


From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:16 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
Ok tried this -when I click on the button I do a Set Field from the
protected Attachment field to it's copy. I then do a
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command on the 2nd attachment field. When
i try this I get the following error;

An invalid argument was encountered.

It looks like the set field fails to copy the attachment .


________________________________


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:58 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
**
Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only
form for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn't seem to be an
option to create a display-only attachment field.

However... you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


________________________________


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Brian,

Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?

Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the
regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then
run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be
impossible for anything to get written .

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


________________________________


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________


From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
Hi Stephen,

I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:

PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID

This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.

Brian


________________________________


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
**
Brian,

How about this approach:

When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.

This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.

In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional


________________________________


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.


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[Thad K Esser]

Brian,

In short - buttons. In my situation, I use a separate form to store the
attachments, and just present them on the user form via a table field. I
then have buttons for View, Add, Replace, Delete, and Save to Disk. You
can then control who has access to the buttons. The attachment pool is
hidden, so they never see it, just the table field.

Oh, and don't get Read/Write confused with Display Only:
"Read/Write", "Read Only", and "Disabled" are display options.
This setting addresses how the field will appear in the user tool.
"Optional", "Required", and "Display Only" are entry mode options
on the Database tab. This setting determines if a field is created in the
db or not.

Attachment pools aren't a database field, and so the "entry mode" concept
won't apply.
Attachment fields are database fields, and so the "entry mode" concept
will apply.

Hope that helps,
Thad Esser
Remedy Developer
"Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."-- Richard
Bach



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**
If it is display only then how do you save the file in the attachment
field?

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:54 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**
I have a display only attachment field that is being set with a set
fields. When I was first setting it up, one issue I had was that if I put
the attachment field on an Admin Only tab (or a tab to which the user
doesn't have permissions), the set fields wouldn't happen. This was the
case even if the attachment pool/field itself had the proper permissions.
In my case the attachment field was hidden anyway, so I just moved it off
the page holder and it worked fine.

Just something to keep in mind.

Thad Esser
Remedy Developer
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**
I do that here but with a Set Fields from another form.

Try this: perform the Set Fields from the same form by ?1? = $1$ This
should cause Remedy to retrieve the file from the server.


Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional




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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:35 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Looks like you can not use a Set Field to copy from one attachment field
to the other. Any other ideas?




From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:16 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
Ok tried this -when I click on the button I do a Set Field from the
protected Attachment field to it's copy. I then do a
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command on the 2nd attachment field. When i
try this I get the following error;

An invalid argument was encountered.

It looks like the set field fails to copy the attachment .




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:58 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
**
Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only form
for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn?t seem to be an option
to create a display-only attachment field.

However? you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Brian,

Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?

Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the regular
attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then run the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be impossible
for anything to get written .

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.



From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
Hi Stephen,

I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:

PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID

This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the changes
are written back to the attachment file.

Brian




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
**
Brian,

How about this approach:

When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved ? when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to this
character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.

This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not allow
them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the attachment from
the record.

In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger your
workflow to make it ?read-only?. You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment ?read-only? if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. ?App-Administrator?. This will provide the
ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional




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Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she attaches
it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am not sure
that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.

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If you are using ITSM 7, take a look at how they lock the Worklog in Work Info. It does essentially the same thing. Once the record is locked the save button is disabled. You can change the attachment, but not save. If you need to add another attachment you create a new record with the new attachment.

Don




Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:34:35 -0500From: ***@SCHOLASTIC.COMSubject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG**

Looks like you can not use a Set Field to copy from one attachment field to the other. Any other ideas?


From: Sokol, Brian Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:16 PMTo: ***@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Ok tried this -when I click on the button I do a Set Field from the protected Attachment field to it's copy. I then do a PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command on the 2nd attachment field. When i try this I get the following error;

An invalid argument was encountered.

It looks like the set field fails to copy the attachment .


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, StephenSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:58 PMTo: ***@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
**







Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only form for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn’t seem to be an option to create a display-only attachment field.

However… you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to $NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, StephenSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PMTo: ***@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Brian,

Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?

Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be impossible for anything to get written .

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, BrianSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PMTo: ***@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment directly.



From: Sokol, Brian Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PMTo: ***@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
Hi Stephen,

I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL with a Run Process action. It performs the following:

PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID

This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the changes are written back to the attachment file.

Brian




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, StephenSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PMTo: ***@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
**
Brian,

How about this approach:

When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved – when the attachment field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.

This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the attachment from the record.

In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger your workflow to make it “read-only”. You probably would want to add a condition that will not make the attachment “read-only” if the user is part of a certain group, ie. ‘App-Administrator’. This will provide the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an attachment.

Stephen
Remedy Skilled Professional





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, BrianSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PMTo: ***@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick CookSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PMTo: ***@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick

On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil> wrote:
Classification: UNCLASSIFIEDCaveats: NONEYou can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an error Filter with the syntax:TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.Gordon M. FrankDISA\Version FNS-----Original Message-----From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, BrianSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM To: ***@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?**I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want toprevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would besimple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. Iknow I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only. Is this possible?Brian SokolManager, Desktop ServicesScholastic Inc.557 BroadwayNY, NY 10012(212) 343-6494http://www.Scholastic.com < http://www.Scholastic.com>__20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML init___Classification: UNCLASSIFIEDCaveats: NONE_______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.orgPlatinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
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[Grooms, Frederick W]

Yes you can make a Read Only Attachment Field on a regular form.

Create your attachment pool (if you don't already have one). On the
Attachment Pool Properties add an Attachment Field. Close the
Attachment Pool properties and BEFORE SAVING THE FORM double click on
the new Attachment Field's file name to bring up the properties for the
attachment field.

You can do things like Hide the field, Disable the Change Flag, Set it
to Display Only, and other field settings

Fred


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Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**

Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only
form for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn't seem to be an
option to create a display-only attachment field.



However... you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Brian,



Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?



Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the
regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then
run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be
impossible for anything to get written .



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
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[Sokol, Brian]

Yes I know you can do that but if I make it display only then a file can
never be saved to the attachment pool. I need to have someone attach a
file and then ONLY allow them to read the file. They can not modify,
delete or replace the file.

________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:43 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**
Yes you can make a Read Only Attachment Field on a regular form.

Create your attachment pool (if you don't already have one). On the
Attachment Pool Properties add an Attachment Field. Close the
Attachment Pool properties and BEFORE SAVING THE FORM double click on
the new Attachment Field's file name to bring up the properties for the
attachment field.

You can do things like Hide the field, Disable the Change Flag, Set it
to Display Only, and other field settings

Fred


________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:58 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)


**

Scratch that last message. I am working on a separate display-only
form for all attachments. On regular forms there doesn't seem to be an
option to create a display-only attachment field.



However... you can still use the same method of doing a Set Fields into
another attachment field. This second attachment field would be set to
$NULL $ either when saving or in the active-link (after the
PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because the user is really
opening a copy of the file the original file remains intact.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



Brian,



Is the attachment field on the form display-only (probably not)?



Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set Fields from the
regular attachment field to a hidden display-only attachment field. Then
run the PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it should be
impossible for anything to get written .



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I changed the action to PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that
will work but I would rather have them be able to view the attachment
directly.

________________________________

From: Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Stephen,



I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did something wrong because
this would be a perfect solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
with a Run Process action. It performs the following:



PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID



This opens the file fine but if I modify the file and save it, the
changes are written back to the attachment file.



Brian



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Brian,



How about this approach:



When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved - when the attachment
field is not null - change the attachment field to Hidden, display the
name (and optionally the size) of the attachment file in a read-only
character field that is displayed as text. Unhide a button next to
this character field that, when clicked, opens the attachment.



This allows the user to open, print, save a local copy, but does not
allow them to make any changes to the attachment or remove the
attachment from the record.



In the above example, only the presence of an attachment will trigger
your workflow to make it "read-only". You probably would want to add a
condition that will not make the attachment "read-only" if the user is
part of a certain group, ie. 'App-Administrator'. This will provide
the ability for certain users to have access to remove or update an
attachment.



Stephen

Remedy Skilled Professional



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)



I don't want the submitter to be able to change it once he or she
attaches it to the form. I had thought of using a separate form but I am
not sure that would prevent the submitter from changing it as well.



________________________________

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

**

Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a separate form for
attachments, couldn't you use the permissions on the field to control
the R/W access to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only allow
write access to the field from a Submit window.



Rick


On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC <***@disa.mil>
wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

You can't use a Change Display action, but you might be able to use an
error Filter with the syntax:

TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>

I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me know.

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Version FNS


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol, Brian
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?

**

I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like
them to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be
simple using the Change Field action and making it Read Only.
Unfortunately that option is not available for that type of field. I
know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it was made read only.
Is this possible?

Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
[phone]
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[Dwayne Martin]

Fred,

I did what you said, and I don't see any option to choose between "Read/Write" and "Read Only". We are at 7.1. Am I missing something?

Dwayne Martin
James Madison Universiy

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:42:34 -0600
>From: "Grooms, Frederick W" <***@XO.COM>
>Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
>
> **
> Yes you can make a Read Only Attachment Field on
> a regular form.
>
> Create your attachment pool (if you don't already
> have one). On the Attachment Pool Properties add an
> Attachment Field. Close the Attachment Pool
> properties and BEFORE SAVING THE FORM double click
> on the new Attachment Field's file name to bring up
> the properties for the attachment field.
>
> You can do things like Hide the field, Disable the
> Change Flag, Set it to Display Only, and other field
> settings
>
> Fred
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider,
> Stephen
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:58 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
> **
>
> Scratch that last message. I am working on a
> separate display-only form for all attachments. On
> regular forms there doesn't seem to be an option to
> create a display-only attachment field.
>
>
>
> However... you can still use the same method of
> doing a Set Fields into another attachment field.
> This second attachment field would be set to $NULL $
> either when saving or in the active-link (after the
> PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because
> the user is really opening a copy of the file the
> original file remains intact.
>
>
>
> Stephen
>
> Remedy Skilled Professional
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider,
> Stephen
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>
>
> Brian,
>
>
>
> Is the attachment field on the form display-only
> (probably not)?
>
>
>
> Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set
> Fields from the regular attachment field to a hidden
> display-only attachment field. Then run the
> PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it
> should be impossible for anything to get written .
>
>
>
> Stephen
>
> Remedy Skilled Professional
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol,
> Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>
>
> I changed the action to
> PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that will
> work but I would rather have them be able to view
> the attachment directly.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Sokol, Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
>
>
> I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did
> something wrong because this would be a perfect
> solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
> with a Run Process action. It performs the
> following:
>
>
>
> PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID
>
>
>
> This opens the file fine but if I modify the file
> and save it, the changes are written back to the
> attachment file.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider,
> Stephen
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> **
>
> Brian,
>
>
>
> How about this approach:
>
>
>
> When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved -
> when the attachment field is not null - change the
> attachment field to Hidden, display the name (and
> optionally the size) of the attachment file in a
> read-only character field that is displayed as
> text. Unhide a button next to this character field
> that, when clicked, opens the attachment.
>
>
>
> This allows the user to open, print, save a local
> copy, but does not allow them to make any changes to
> the attachment or remove the attachment from the
> record.
>
>
>
> In the above example, only the presence of an
> attachment will trigger your workflow to make it
> "read-only". You probably would want to add a
> condition that will not make the attachment
> "read-only" if the user is part of a certain group,
> ie. `App-Administrator'. This will provide the
> ability for certain users to have access to remove
> or update an attachment.
>
>
>
> Stephen
>
> Remedy Skilled Professional
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol,
> Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>
>
> I don't want the submitter to be able to change it
> once he or she attaches it to the form. I had
> thought of using a separate form but I am not sure
> that would prevent the submitter from changing it as
> well.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> **
>
> Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a
> separate form for attachments, couldn't you use the
> permissions on the field to control the R/W access
> to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only
> allow write access to the field from a Submit
> window.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
> On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
> <***@disa.mil> wrote:
>
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> You can't use a Change Display action, but you might
> be able to use an
> error Filter with the syntax:
>
> TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>
>
> I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me
> know.
>
> Gordon M. Frank
> DISA\Version FNS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol,
> Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?
>
> **
>
> I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is
> attached I want to
> prevent anyone from changing or deleting the
> attachment. I would like
> them to be able to view the attached file. I thought
> this would be
> simple using the Change Field action and making it
> Read Only.
> Unfortunately that option is not available for that
> type of field. I
> know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it
> was made read only.
> Is this possible?
>
> Brian Sokol
> Manager, Desktop Services
> Scholastic Inc.
> 557 Broadway
> NY, NY 10012
> [phone]
> http://www.Scholastic.com <
> http://www.Scholastic.com>
>
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[Sokol, Brian]

No you are not. There is no option for Read Only.

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[mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:04 PM
To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Fred,

I did what you said, and I don't see any option to choose between
"Read/Write" and "Read Only". We are at 7.1. Am I missing something?

Dwayne Martin
James Madison Universiy

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:42:34 -0600
>From: "Grooms, Frederick W" <***@XO.COM>
>Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
>
> **
> Yes you can make a Read Only Attachment Field on
> a regular form.
>
> Create your attachment pool (if you don't already
> have one). On the Attachment Pool Properties add an
> Attachment Field. Close the Attachment Pool
> properties and BEFORE SAVING THE FORM double click
> on the new Attachment Field's file name to bring up
> the properties for the attachment field.
>
> You can do things like Hide the field, Disable the
> Change Flag, Set it to Display Only, and other field
> settings
>
> Fred
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider,
> Stephen
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:58 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
> **
>
> Scratch that last message. I am working on a
> separate display-only form for all attachments. On
> regular forms there doesn't seem to be an option to
> create a display-only attachment field.
>
>
>
> However... you can still use the same method of
> doing a Set Fields into another attachment field.
> This second attachment field would be set to $NULL $
> either when saving or in the active-link (after the
> PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command). Because
> the user is really opening a copy of the file the
> original file remains intact.
>
>
>
> Stephen
>
> Remedy Skilled Professional
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider,
> Stephen
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:47 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>
>
> Brian,
>
>
>
> Is the attachment field on the form display-only
> (probably not)?
>
>
>
> Try this, when the user clicks the button do a Set
> Fields from the regular attachment field to a hidden
> display-only attachment field. Then run the
> PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT command. This way it
> should be impossible for anything to get written .
>
>
>
> Stephen
>
> Remedy Skilled Professional
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol,
> Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:23 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>
>
> I changed the action to
> PERFORM-ACTION-SAVE-ATTACHMENT FieldID and that will
> work but I would rather have them be able to view
> the attachment directly.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Sokol, Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:14 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: RE: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
>
>
> I just tried your approach and I am hoping I did
> something wrong because this would be a perfect
> solution. When I click on the button I run an AL
> with a Run Process action. It performs the
> following:
>
>
>
> PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT FieldID
>
>
>
> This opens the file fine but if I modify the file
> and save it, the changes are written back to the
> attachment file.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Heider,
> Stephen
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> **
>
> Brian,
>
>
>
> How about this approach:
>
>
>
> When the screen is opened or the entry retrieved -
> when the attachment field is not null - change the
> attachment field to Hidden, display the name (and
> optionally the size) of the attachment file in a
> read-only character field that is displayed as
> text. Unhide a button next to this character field
> that, when clicked, opens the attachment.
>
>
>
> This allows the user to open, print, save a local
> copy, but does not allow them to make any changes to
> the attachment or remove the attachment from the
> record.
>
>
>
> In the above example, only the presence of an
> attachment will trigger your workflow to make it
> "read-only". You probably would want to add a
> condition that will not make the attachment
> "read-only" if the user is part of a certain group,
> ie. `App-Administrator'. This will provide the
> ability for certain users to have access to remove
> or update an attachment.
>
>
>
> Stephen
>
> Remedy Skilled Professional
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol,
> Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:30 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>
>
> I don't want the submitter to be able to change it
> once he or she attaches it to the form. I had
> thought of using a separate form but I am not sure
> that would prevent the submitter from changing it as
> well.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read
> Only? (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> **
>
> Well, even assuming that you didn't want to build a
> separate form for attachments, couldn't you use the
> permissions on the field to control the R/W access
> to it (i.e. allow Submitter only)? Or perhaps only
> allow write access to the field from a Submit
> window.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
> On 12/13/07, FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
> <***@disa.mil> wrote:
>
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> You can't use a Change Display action, but you might
> be able to use an
> error Filter with the syntax:
>
> TR.<Attachment field> != DB.<Attachment field>
>
> I haven't tried it but I'll bet you can. Let me
> know.
>
> Gordon M. Frank
> DISA\Version FNS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:***@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sokol,
> Brian
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
> To: ***@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Can An Attachment Field Be Made Read Only?
>
> **
>
> I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is
> attached I want to
> prevent anyone from changing or deleting the
> attachment. I would like
> them to be able to view the attached file. I thought
> this would be
> simple using the Change Field action and making it
> Read Only.
> Unfortunately that option is not available for that
> type of field. I
> know I can hide the field but I would prefer if it
> was made read only.
> Is this possible?
>
> Brian Sokol
> Manager, Desktop Services
> Scholastic Inc.
> 557 Broadway
> NY, NY 10012
> [phone]
> http://www.Scholastic.com <
> http://www.Scholastic.com>
>
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[Michiel Beijen]

I guess you can put a trim box on top of it , the user would not be
able to access the field. Now you can add your own button and an AL
that does PERFORM-ACTION-OPEN-ATTACHMENT..
--
Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards
Michiel Beijen
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Energieweg 60-62
3771 NA Barneveld
The Netherlands
Tel. [phone]
Mail ***@mansolutions.nl
Internet http://bsm.mansolutions.nl


On Dec 13, 2007 6:42 PM, Sokol, Brian <***@scholastic.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> I have an attachment field on a form. Once a file is attached I want to
> prevent anyone from changing or deleting the attachment. I would like them
> to be able to view the attached file. I thought this would be simple using
> the Change Field action and making it Read Only. Unfortunately that option
> is not available for that type of field. I know I can hide the field but I
> would prefer if it was made read only. Is this possible?
>
> Brian Sokol
> Manager, Desktop Services
> Scholastic Inc.
> 557 Broadway
> NY, NY 10012
> [phone]
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[Sharma, Tarun]

Brian,

Go to Attachment pool properties-> Attachment field tab -> Make all
labels as NULL except display labels. Please find attached file also.
Then no body will be able to add/delete the attachment because other
option will be disappeared.

Though the user can see the file content and do some changes after
opening file but finally but he will not able to save these changes. But
this thing can be misleading to the user.

For some specific user to make 'add' operation available, you can make
another temp attachment pool which will be displayed only to valid users
who can add attachment. After adding attachment in temp attachment pool,
you can send the copy of this file to Main Attachment pool by using Set
field in an active link. But it may cause your performance.

Regards,
Tarun








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[Michiel Beijen]

If you would do this, I guess users could still drag and drop
attachments in the attachment field if it is empty - but then again,
that is not really a requirement...
--
Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards
Michiel Beijen
______________________________________________________
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Energieweg 60-62
3771 NA Barneveld
The Netherlands
Tel. [phone]
Mail ***@mansolutions.nl
Internet http://bsm.mansolutions.nl


On Dec 14, 2007 12:20 PM, Sharma, Tarun <***@capgemini.com> wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> Go to Attachment pool properties-> Attachment field tab -> Make all
> labels as NULL except display labels. Please find attached file also.
> Then no body will be able to add/delete the attachment because other
> option will be disappeared.
>
> Though the user can see the file content and do some changes after
> opening file but finally but he will not able to save these changes. But
> this thing can be misleading to the user.
>
> For some specific user to make 'add' operation available, you can make
> another temp attachment pool which will be displayed only to valid users
> who can add attachment. After adding attachment in temp attachment pool,
> you can send the copy of this file to Main Attachment pool by using Set
> field in an active link. But it may cause your performance.
>
> Regards,
> Tarun
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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